Recognizing and Dealing with an Unsound Mind: Lessons from the Smitty Bros SauceCast
In a world where relationships—personal, business, and family—can be deeply complicated, recognizing the signs of an unsound mind is crucial. In the latest episode of the Smitty Bros SauceCast, Ryan and his brother Porter dive into their personal experiences, discussing red flags, past betrayals, and how they’ve learned to navigate difficult relationships while staying grounded in truth and righteousness.
Understanding the Red Flags
The episode begins with a candid discussion about recognizing the traits of an unsound mind. The brothers reflect on their own personal journeys, emphasizing the importance of recognizing red flags early on.
Some key red flags they mention include:
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Fear-driven decision-making – When choices are made out of self-preservation rather than confidence and love, it often leads to deception and manipulation.
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Lack of accountability – If someone refuses to address past grievances or acknowledge their role in conflicts, it’s a sign they may not be operating from a sound mind.
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Manipulation through emotional appeal – Using guilt, self-victimization, or exaggerated emotional responses to divert from truth is a common tactic of those avoiding accountability.
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Avoidance of truth and confrontation – People with unsound minds often refuse to engage in direct, truth-based discussions. Instead, they prefer to bury issues rather than work through them.
Personal Experiences: A Family Betrayal and Bitchin' Sauce
The Smitty brothers share their own story of betrayal within their family business, Bitchin' Sauce. Their sister, once a trusted business partner, took control of Bitchin' Sauce, leaving them without their livelihoods. While the initial shock was devastating, they reflect on the warning signs they overlooked—subtle resentments, lack of transparency, and power struggles masked as family loyalty.
Looking back, they recognize moments where a proactive approach might have prevented the fallout. However, rather than dwelling on the past, they focus on what they’ve learned: the necessity of dealing with red flags immediately and not allowing unhealthy dynamics to fester.
Breaking Free from the Fear Mindset
One of the most powerful takeaways from the episode is the contrast between operating out of fear versus operating out of faith and love. Fear causes:
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Self-preservation at the cost of truth
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Desperation in decision-making
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Isolation from those who challenge false narratives
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A downward spiral into bitterness and blame
On the other hand, choosing faith, love, and truth allows for:
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Transparency and accountability
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Healing and growth
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Genuine reconciliation (when both parties are willing)
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Freedom from the burden of controlling others
The Religion of Niceness vs. Truth in Love
A key discussion point in the podcast is the difference between being nice and being loving. Many people believe avoiding conflict and being outwardly agreeable is the best approach, but the brothers argue that true love involves addressing real issues—even when it's uncomfortable.
They reject the idea that staying silent for the sake of avoiding discomfort is beneficial. Instead, they advocate for truth-based confrontation, believing that only when issues are openly discussed can real healing take place. This was especially true in the case of Bitchin' Sauce, where avoidance and deception played a role in the betrayal.
An Open Invitation to Reconciliation
In a powerful moment, the brothers extend an open invitation to their estranged family members. They emphasize that reconciliation is always possible, but it must be built on truth, not avoidance. They propose a mediated discussion with a neutral third party—someone who follows biblical principles and can help facilitate a fair and honest conversation.
Their stance is clear: the door is open, but any reconciliation must come through honesty, accountability, and a willingness to address the root issues that led to the Bitchin' Sauce dispute in the first place.
Final Thoughts
Their message is one of hope: while betrayal and hardship are painful, they do not have to define the future. With wisdom, faith, and a commitment to truth, it is possible to navigate even the most difficult relationships and come out stronger on the other side.
If you find yourself dealing with an unsound mind—whether in family, business, or friendships—take a step back, evaluate the red flags, and choose to stand in truth. It may not be easy, but as the brothers emphasize, true freedom and peace come from operating in love, not fear. And as their journey with Bitchin' Sauce has shown, truth always prevails in the end.
Transcript:
welcome to the Smitty Bros sauce cast uh this is our eth
episode and uh welcome to you Ryan my brother
hey I welcome myself to you we have welcomed each other and welcome to all
the people listening today is a very interesting topic uh we're going to talk
about um the unsound mind is what I would like
to ttle title it title it uh it could also be called like red
flags how to know when you're dealing with an unsound mind and uh how to avoid
it and how to deal with it when you are dealing with it yeah I think that's important
is recognizing it and then what to do
about it and and what kind of understanding what the future
holds if it's not if it's not dealt with yeah maybe like the what the future is
if it is dealt with too yeah and what it's what it is if it is dealt with the pathways sure um from you know having to
deal with being forced to deal with it in our case forced to deal with unsoundness
and uh where it has led us and this is going to be this is a good topic I'm
really excited about this one yeah um so if you haven't heard our story yet you
should go back and listen to this entire sauce cast from the very beginning uh
it's a It's s hours of content so put it on 1.5 speed TWP speed we talk slow
enough where it will still make sense we're still getting used to the the podcast uh performance and so we um we
say um a lot and we talk slow sometimes but uh the content's really good and
hopefully you can get a hold of something out of this uh topic here so
um in our story we we're we were betrayed by one of our own one of our
closest family members our business partner and our sibling our sister uh ended up basically heisting the what I
would call a heist um she she ended up taking our uh company and revenue and
livelihoods uh away from us so coming out of uh you know having
your livelihood St Stripped Away uh you know you kind of reflect back and go
what could I have done differently or or you know how would I handle that how
would I have handled that situation ation differently um how would I you know a
lot of that first scenario was a surprise yeah um but there were also
what we call red flags that we could have like with more wisdom we would have
we would have noticed that uh sooner and would have probably taken action sooner
based off the red flags you know and I think you know our our nature is to
think really the best of everybody it's not like we're especially our own family it's not like we're out thinking oh my
gosh this person's out to get me or it's going to make a really poor choice or
whatever um you know we're not thinking those things but when you see you know
looking back you see uh you do see red flags and you see things that you know
if unhandled then develop into larger issues and we had the opportunity to
kind of go through the scenario of dealing with unsoundness on multiple
occasions and the second time it started coming down the pipe we handled it
um we handled it less reactionary and more uh proactive
knowing exactly what was going on exactly what it was going to turn into unhandled and um we handled it more from
a position of like power and less of a
position of what the heck is going on right now and trying to figure it all out and all yeah the good news is that
uh when you deal with unsoundness with uh
love and it it will carry power with it and
even though you may seem powerless you you do win you come out on top and
uh and yeah in in soundness as well so there's a verse that says where the
spirit of the Lord is there's that's Freedom oh that's God has not given us
the spirit fear of fear that's it so God has not given us the spirit of fear but of power and love and a sound
mind yep and it's funny because fear is really the exact opposite of that and
fear is the the cause of unsoundness and weakness yes and uh unloving so it's
basically you know it's yeah fears has the exact opposite of what yeah so
yeah so we we looking back were able to
pick out things in our story that like oh there's a red flag that wasn't very
sound oh that one that's not loving oh that's a fearful decision um
and you know it probably started in our childhood with you know how we we were
you know athletic dudes and we were kind of celebrities in our school and we were
popular and we were uh we were playing baseball and winning and you know in the
newspapers and all that stuff and we had our younger siblings that didn't quite
follow that same path and I believe were they felt they were in the shadow of
what we were doing and um you know
I've heard and this is this would be the red flag would be like you know you guys
were out playing baseball or doing all stuff and I was at home doing the dishes and you guys never did the dishes
something like that M and there was a a disgruntled opinion MH that was never
handled MH um and it was held and I believe that this is where all of this
started yeah was back then and kind of a uh a jealousy of what we were doing and
yeah we did the dishes too but maybe not as often because we were playing baseball more than we were at home or
things like that but uh you know kind of that disgruntled and
then the fear if am I going to live up to what my brothers are doing hm that's
where I believe it started yeah yeah I think any of those
ideas you know if those ideas are present and unhandled like if you are if
there is jealousy or if there is like you know a comparison taking place that
um you know where essentially you feel like you know who am I and so you have a
low self-image of yourself and um you're not like living up to
whatever standard it is then you know that's easy that's like easy open doors
for uh bitterness to come in MH um and a
fence to come in you know and and if I mean this can be happening without even
vocalizing it although I do think these things in like a comment like you just mentioned that is a way of
vocalizing that but it's like you know those those things like
bitterness is like the Bible talks about it being
like a root and um it grows and unhandled it it will uh like
infect decisions and every area of life you know and it kind of all it all stems
back to you know your how you see
yourself and how you view yourself how you value yourself and that's
why then you know as things develop in life
that will uh you know if if there is like
bitterness in them there it will uh start manifesting itself in different
areas of life that may not have to do with any any actual issue of the root
cause but it just starts coming out like in our business or um whatever but those
things are super important like if there is bitterness in your heart like it's
going to eat you up and it will affect how you see yourself and how you present yourself and all that stuff that's why
it's important to have like value attached to yourself that isn't based off of
circumstance that isn't based off of other people otherwise you are a slave
to circumstance you know and you're a slave to what people do or don't do or think
or don't think you know yeah one thing our family practiced really well was not
uh confronting not getting into confrontations and pulling and weeding
out these roots of bitterness we were actually really good at uh putting on the the everything is great face and
greatest family in the world title and uh you know our image was awesome but
the roots of bitterness without being you know identified and weeded out
those things stick they they always stick they're always there there until they're handled they're handled and
what's funny is the you know where I think it started was you know in not
doing the dishes that actually came up again when we were going through the
process of in our company of like
of trying to weed the stuff out the the dishes came up again like you don't do
the dishes when we have uh you know family parties I'm like what this is bad
back I like okay yeah maybe maybe you're right maybe I have to you know work on how I do the dishes or how I clean the
toilets or whatever but those those topics came up again and it's that
same route unhandled uh you know dealing with dealing with someone's uh problem right
away is biblical you when you have a problem with the brother you talk to
them in private yeah about it yeah and that gives it the opportunity for this
the bitterness won't even take rote yeah and uh we we were never we never did
that yeah I I see like there there are healthy Cycles cuz people make mistakes
and uh you know people don't live up to expectation and there's expectations out
there and there's all sorts of things out there people have different standards and you know in their own
minds and the there are cycles that like God put in place where it's like so for
example if let's say you did do something where you wronged somebody for
whatever reason you know there is the cycle of uh
repentance and receiving forgiveness and then there is restoration just in the
same way you know we were all s Sinners MH at one point and and born into that
and then God has a savior
and uh he says repent and there's forgiveness and there's that cycle of
then being restored and it's the same cycle that works in relationship here
between people it's the same exact cycle cuz it's not like everything you know everybody gets everything right all the
time but that is the cycle that's that's why I'm not afraid of I'm not afraid of making mistakes even as like a father
I'm not afraid of man I messed it up I there is there is a cycle in place not
like I'm looking to go make mistakes but there's a cycle where I you know we practice this cycle in our family of
repent and forgiveness and then there's Restoration in my own family in my own
personal family I practice this cycle and talk about this cycle that stuff's
going to happen and here's how it's handled this is the process of how it's handled but it's actually uh it's
actually handled and unhandled then there's the breakdown MH fully yeah you
know it's like the fear of of not being perfect you know cuz like you said we're
all we're all going to make mistakes sure um but the fear of making
mistakes leads to burying burying everything yeah and uh and then
those things will be taken taking root yeah but it like starts with the fear side of it yeah and uh what you're
describing um is a very powerful thing and it's very logical and very it's
sound and it's it's the spirit working yeah the other side is you working to to
preserve yourself yeah to make it you're trying to make it all yeah make sense
and right when people aren't falling in line yeah and what
other people do affects you know if your value is attached to what other people
do or don't do yeah that's that's a major uh that's a major issue I remember
I remember when so after all the stuff happened with our last business and I
ended up moving in with you MH and so we lived in the same house and you and I have completely different
Lifestyles our wives are different there's different standards there's
there's it's it's uh even my wife and I have different standards but one thing
that I remember talking to my wife and I was like this is this is how we're going to go into this situation is we are just
going to love and give as much as possible and
not try to make anyone live up to our standard or any anything like that if
there's if there is an opportunity to give we're going to give dishes let's
use dishes as an example cuz dishes comes up or whatever and you know everybody has their line of what is
what's okay you know my wife's okay with a few dishes in the sink at the end of the night like that's her line she's
fine that if she's tired enough ideally she wants it completely clean yeah but
she's fine doing that and like that's okay to her um but to other people other
people live with totally different standards and things and so my what I
said is what we're going to do is we are going to serve and love and we're not
going to put any expectation on anybody for anything we're just going to find
Opportunities to give and love and that's what we're going to do we're going to go give and love and if there's
dishes and you wish they were done then we're going to go do them and and that's
just how we're going to operate because when you get into a position of being
critical and I I call I would even say it's hypocritical and I'll get to that
part but when you become critical of someone and you put this expectation
they have to live up to this thing or I'm not okay right and so then you
become very critical everything's very nitpicky and it's there's this problem
that is no one's living up to your standard but it goes even deeper and
where the hypocritical comes in is you don't even live up to your
standard you know you don't even you don't even live up to your to
lines like something's okay one time but then it's okay and it just becomes all this nitpicky very surfacy stupid stuff
that is a full breakdown of where actually love lives which love is not
like I need you to do something for me for me to be okay or you need to fall in line so I'm okay it is love is a giving
thing of how can I serve and give it's love is inside out criticalness is
outside in trying to get everything to line up around you to make you be okay
and that is to go a step further that goes a deeper that goes into a deeper
issue of even with our sister and the stuff you're talking about um you know
the comparison not living up to you know that goes to a deeper issue of value and
not being okay with yourself and why you know if there's no value or you don't
value yourself um like the question is where where is your value coming
from yeah it's what you can take where at that point at that point where's your
value coming from and but that's but that is like the key root thing question anyone listening it's like where is your
value coming from and if your value is based off of circumstance if your value
is based off of the people around you if your value is based off
of you know any of these outside factors then you become a slave to your outside
factors making you feel okay yeah and it becomes very yeah it becomes very much
based in feeling and all that stuff and there is a place that you can live where
your value is secured yeah and that's I mean I'll spoiler spoiler alert that's
in Christ where you are secure like God so loved the world that he gave this is
the flow of love it comes from God to you and there's a great verse that
says um you know love your neighbor even as you love yourself well if you don't
love yourself yeah then you cannot love the people around you or you could say it a
different way you can only love the people around you to the extent that you love yourself yeah and the only reason
you would love yourself is because you've actually been loved and received love from God there's that standard so
if that standard isn't set if you don't have that love from God as the standard
that is not going to change it is truth it there's nothing you can do or not do
to disqualify yourself and not uh it is just the standard there is and then from
that place knowing that okay I'm secure yeah I'm good it doesn't matter what
other people think which by the way another great verse talks about how the fear of man is a snare like what other
people think if you care about what other people think and this is a big one
even even for my wife she brought it up in the last podcast she talked about being a people ple loser you know if you
care about what other people think then you are a slave to those people it is a
snare you are bound and the way to live free is to take the value that God has
given us through Christ that love value and then there's a flow that takes place
through you knowing I know how much I'm loved I love myself I line myself up
with what God thinks about me and now I can love people through that and it has nothing to do do with what they do or
don't do for me yeah and you're you are a free person yeah like that is the
sound that's the sound way and that's the way where you are able to um talk
about difficult issues you are not threatened by what people do or don't do
because it has nothing to do with like what people do or don't do for you it
has nothing to do with you it's you are you are completely free from them yeah and you're actually this is another
thing is you are free from yourself because a lot of people put this uh self
um you know they put self-standards on things and so when you switch your value
system from what you think about yourself to what God thinks about yourself and you line yourself up with
that then you're actually free from yourself and that's a big that is a big
point in what the love of God is cuz the love of God is not self-seeking you can
read 1 Corinthians 13 it doesn't seek its own it's not selfish
and when there's a breakdown if you if you like red flags is uh selfishness is
a massive red flag where you know you have to we talk a lot about it in our
previous podcast but it's a self-preserving um I have to preserve ve
myself because you're trying to keep your value yeah you know of what you
think and if that gets threatened then that's where breakdown takes place yeah
you know in fear is uh 100% selfish yeah I am afraid of
this it's all about you I me I I'm afraid yeah and it has nothing to do
with love which comes from God it has everything to do with me being afraid
and it that is a selfish that is just a selfish world to live in yeah if we if
we really knew how much God loved us and we we uh remembered that we wouldn't be
afraid of anything and even in your own your own world of you know trying to be
good and loving if someone would point out that you good or loving or nice or whatever you have no problems going
through your your own self because you trust God
loves you you trust what he says about you and you trust you're going to come out of it in power uh regardless of if
you were right or regardless of if you're wrong yeah so the red flags that I'm hearing and I've seen in my life
that will uh you know spur crazy decisions is fear is is the root of the
all of it all out of fear comes self-preservation um you know not
willing to uh not willing to be
examined yeah uh yeah protection yeah you're trying to the these types of
these types of occurrences are big red flags and if
you run into somebody who is uh not willing to talk about
it stop everything don't don't go past it like
it will eventually take everything out if you
don't deal with the smallest little thing the smallest little route that
is uh unhandled it has the power to uh sway people's decisions later on down
the road when their entire lives are built off of this you know one mid route Y and uh and they'll make some crazy
decisions yep yeah I've even noticed this personally um you know like in my
wife and M my wife and M's life um in
our personal life like even like having kids and now you have kids in the mix you
know you have your marriage but now you have kids in the mix and when
when you are trying to uh when you're trying
to like preserve everything and hold everything up and you know it becomes
all about like oh I'm I'm and I think it's easy to fall into this just in parenting you know like I am this kid's
sufficiency you know I am the one who needs to take care of this kid and so um
these which you know you have a baby and like you are their lifeline essentially you know so there's there's
elements of that where there's the responsibility but it can become easily
out of whack where uh it becomes more of a you become
God to that child and you the you are their savior you are the their
everything and and it instead of the trust in God like God taking care of my
child and I am here you know with the privilege of you know from God to parent
this child God working through me you know and you can do it in the healthy way and the the righteous way where it's
like no I I have I have a privilege to do this and I'm going to let God work through me and I'm going to trust God as
I do this but if you put yourself in the position as God where I have to MH
control this thing and you know and it's all out of you know you know the
mother's intuition and all the all the stuff that's said which you know there's a lot of things that are out there that
are that are said you know it's just being motherly well there is a line
there is a point where um you know it becomes a uh you know God's not even in
the mix yeah you know and it's just you trying to self preserve this scenario
versus trusting God and you in your rightful place as you know I God is
going to work through me and I am not the sufficiency of all of this you know
like God stays in his place and you don't go above God yeah I would say a good test of to know where you are at uh
in a in a situation like that where your performance
uh is everything and a great test is to
are you okay if you don't do it this could be anything like you know
um any type of situation where you are doing
something for for God or for other people or
whatever if you if you can't not do it if you have a problem
stopping then you are bound to that thing and you will you have to do it um
and it becomes your identity so a good test would be to not do it actually just
take take a break like in in parenting like let
go of you know whatever uh you think is is best
whatever you think is best and trust that God is even a better parent than you are yeah that's that's good yeah I'm
trying to take myself there mentally I know yeah let go and trust that God yeah
God cares more than you God God's the greatest parent there is yeah he
invented parenting and when we decide we are smarter than God or we're just
afraid to um take our hands off I mean
this came up with uh our parents and uh our sisters kids so their grandkids yeah
good example they they couldn't let the biblical
principles of how God kind of brings light into the situation even
uses separation as a tool to eventually restore everything they couldn't let
that that Godly work happen and they couldn't take their hand off of these
grandkids and it was described in a phone call with some spiritual
counselors as a savior complex where they have to be the savior in the
situation and I actually heard that from our sister at some point where there's a savior complex our sister needs to be
the one who you know brings wealth into our family and you know we have to follow her and it it turns a you
know it turns it into unhealthy where now everybody's bound to that you're
bound to it I'm you know if I'm the one with the Savior complex I can't screw up
otherwise all these people are going to uh you know there's no trust in God
God's not even in the picture but um so it we've seen a lot of this in our
experience the greatest thing I experienced that a little bit even just with you know our current company with
you know Mom and Dad working for us and younger brother working for us and
you know you're all these things are coming into your mind of like you know
everybody had everything taken and you're trying to get this thing to work and it needs to work they
need to be taken care of and it falls on me and you know miserable yeah oh my
gosh I I literally it felt it felt it f i felt trapped I felt like ball and
chain trapped and it was it was not the freedom of
trusting God yeah it was I yeah if I don't perform
everything's just effed yeah that's I mean that's that's how it felt
and yeah I remember I can physically feel that the feeling of those thoughts
and it was not it was not uh it's not a it wasn't a healthy feeling
it was a feeling of just like yeah just trapped
bound you know pressure the weight of all this stuff and there there was it
was like there was no God in it yeah and when you don't get saved from
that mindset or you don't you you don't have someone to talk to you out of that
mindset yeah um you continue down that path and then when
when when it all comes down like you are so responsible that the decisions you
start making out of fear become unsound yeah that I experienced that personally
I remember I remember you know I remember
those those points where it's like you know you're just trying to save everything you're trying to you you
start thinking stupid you do you start
thinking stupid and and it is the fruit
is just it's crappy and it wasn't it literally it wasn't
until you know I let I let it all go and
said you know took yourself out of it I took myself out of it and said you know
what I even if like the starting point of taking myself out it was like what I'm
doing like just the awareness and realization just looking around at the
fruit and being aware of the pressure and the
feelings and all that stuff and going what I am doing is not
working if I continue to do these to do
the same stuff it's not working I remember cuz you weren't feeling any of
the same stuff that I was feeling I remember I was getting mad at me I
know yeah and I remember going I have to stop I have to stop even
if I don't fully understand it now yeah like he isn't a better place to make a
decision for our company than I am yeah and like I'm I'm done like I'm not going
to make a decision like this anymore and so like just let go the Reigns yeah
Jesus Take the Wheel you know and like just go I'm done
and when we did that or when I did that that was what changed the
trajectory of our business yeah like immediately after that was when our bus
our current business started getting success and
traction and it was and it wasn't like this this information or this UC and
traction of our current business wasn't just sitting there it was all just sitting there but you become uh blinded
to just what's you become blinded you become you don't you don't make right
choices and it comes through uh to other people too so um like a a great example like we're
we both have uh a history in sales and if you go into a sales presentation
thinking about your self your income your uh bonus at the end of the week
your uh if you don't get the sale uh if you have any of you in it yeah um and
your preservation the the pressure of the sale you know it's in there yeah and it
even like builds and it like it has room to if you don't control your mind has
room to like peek out and it Peaks out in your voice and your sales presentation you can sound desperate
yeah and you're uh you can say the wrong thing you can you can I used to
hyperventilate when I was in a high pressure uh like I was talking to Costco
buyers one time and you know this deal would save our company and I couldn't I
couldn't communicate properly because I had a uh
fear inside of the sale not happening of the deal not happening or whatever and
you know it peaked out in I'm sure desperation I'm sure like pressure even
emotional like uh anger sadness
manipulating uh protect lying to protect things you know it it just
you give you give this thing space to move and it will totally take over yeah
and a simple sales presentation will turn into a failure
and you will uh you'll blow it all and you the your greatest fear will come
upon you which is another biblical principle yeah uh but if you go into a sales presentation where you're there to
serve and if there's and if they have uh a need for you or whatever you have you
you benefit them you add value to their lives then great yeah and it's going to
just naturally be there yeah and if you couldn't add value why would you why would you even want why take advantage
of somebody else for your own game exactly yeah so it's a great it's a great equalizer and it it it's light and
it shines black and white yeah I had on the same on the same subject of the uh
the Costco thing I had a I had a crazy experience with Costco where um there
was an there was an outstanding balance of like $115,000 that we owed and Costco
um Costco came and they were they were like hey you know there's this outstanding balance that we need to get
figured out and so I had sent an email and I had a I had a phone call with with one of the head buyers in regards to
this I kind of appealed to them cuz I was like hey it was during Co when Co happened and we weren't able
to really do everything that we wanted to do cuz things got shut down but um I
remember and I was I was fasting at this time which was interesting because I
think that also gave me an extra awareness of
like what was going on in my own heart but so I had this phone call set up and
you know my desire is to turn this you know I don't want to pay $115,000 and I
I want to try to turn this this thing where I owe into like I
want this to turn into a deal and like you know do it a different way and I
remember praying about it and and then it was like 15 minutes before the
conversation I was about to go in the conversation I felt this just crazy
weight just this heavy heavy weight and I recognized it and I was like what is
going on with this weight that I'm feeling and I remember I was talking to
God about it and I and I recognized that it was like a spiritual weight like it I
felt ick and so I did my normal like you know commanding spirits to go but it I
still felt it and I was like God what is going on here and um one thing that I
was willing to do in the past was I was willing
to uh say things that weren't exactly the truth to like steer
the conversation and manipulate the conversation into the way that I wanted
it to to go MH and um I recognized this like basically
God told me at that time he's like the reason this you're feeling this
weight is because you are willing to manipulate this conversation to try to
get the desired end because you don't trust that I am good enough to get this
done you don't trust that my righteousness is enough yeah and so you're taking it upon yourself to try to
control this thing and I was like I mean that really floored me it was crazy that
was like a a self- Deliverance scenario and I I then I remember the
first thought that came into my mind well if I don't do this then we're going
to have to pay $155,000 which I don't have or whatever and God was like and
you don't trust that I'm big enough to take take care of $115,000 yeah and I'm
like like you're right I was like you're that is so right you don't trust that my
my way the righteous way which is not hiding details you know God's very
transparent and there's not there's no hiding there's no manipulating there's no any of that stuff lying or even
bearing false witness like that um a false witness is like it's
like you're not telling the whole truth yeah maybe you're telling some some
little truth but it's not just fully transparent you know because it's self-preservation here I am just trying
to self-preservation for me I was like holy crap I can't believe I was willing to do
this and so I went into that conversation and immediately when I like
repented of that and I was like I am sorry like you are big enough to cover
whatever whatever Smackdown is coming my way $155,000 Smackdown or whatever I owe
or whatever you're enough to cover this and that weight was lifted and I had a conversation with the
buyer about that and I wasn't I it it was it was completely different
conversation than I had ever had it was so easy it was
um there was it was just here's all the information no manipulation stated my
desires and all that stuff and that conversation worked out in such a great
way that everything was taken care of all those things that I was afraid of
trying to
had I not uh like in that moment repented and changed and did that yeah
so yeah anyways there's a practical example yeah so we're
we're professionals at all of these red flags we've done every single one of
them ourselves we know uh what they look like we know what they feel
like uh and it's because we know that we
can identify it in other people and one thing that's different about how we've
done it from the rest of our family is that we uh handle these things that we
root out these things we search and look for that yeah yeah and you know seek
first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and his righteousness is enough to preserve you completely uh and
have a life that's more than abundant everything you ever want wanted and more so that you can give that's true that's
the second half of that verse the seeking first kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things are added added to you I mean it is the
truth if you just hold on to righteousness and go God you're enough
your way yeah and you are enough for me and it doesn't matter what the circumstances are like how
extreme any of it you hold on to that and just go this is the choice I'm going
to make when you let go of all your ish yeah that you you were trying to preserve and all that stuff the
immediate results of those decisions are evident and everything
changes and it's because God is that good he is he is that good it's all
sitting there for anyone listening like whatever you are holding on to and
whatever you can't let go of and you're just so afraid and you're self-preserving and you're doing you
have to understand that God is that good and Beyond what you could ask or think
because you think you're probably oh if I don't do this I'm going to lose this or I'm going to you know and it's all
based in fear not based in trust in God if you just let go you will see the
Unseen MH you will see the goodness of God that you can't see currently and it
is an immediate response to choosing the righteous of God you
know at the expense of whatever you think you're holding on to so tightly what's people what's funny is people I
thought this so I know other people think this too um is that people think
okay I can God Wants You know the best for me I want the best for me and God will take me to
the place like in the in their like highest of highest trusting God God will
take me to the place where I'm okay and that's that's good that's actually not what God's plan is God is to take you to
a place where you are overflowing and rivers of Life are
coming out of you yeah and so it's not a fill me up type of thing you will be
filled you will be filled far beyond uh what you even imagine and it
becomes into giving and MH that is who
you are and what you're designed to be you're designed to be a giver and you
can't give what you don't have so um yeah it's not just about you being
past yeah think way past you even because you could even take that in a
selfish light as long as I'm okay yeah I'm as long as I'm okay as long as I'm okay okay I'm okay but no there's yeah
it goes beyond that so for some reason this is sticking in my head I've heard somebody say this that you're like a
hose and the love of God and the goodness of God is flowing through you
you know out but the hose gets wet the hose is still going to get wet
yeah hose is still going to be full but it's a flow it's not just like oh it just stops yeah I mean it talks about us
being made in the image of God and it talks about God being you know a
Fountain it talks about oh well how I would how I've
always thought is like oh God you know I got to park myself myself next to this Fountain so that it can shower me with
blessings and I can be filled and hold out my cup and you know thank you God
it's all about me getting yeah when is as in the image of God I'm a fountain
yeah and you know a fountain has no care for itself it actually can't receive you
can't stuff anything back down in a fountain or can't hold anything it must release and that is our nature I think
that's what God wants us to be so anyway I wanted to read we we had a letter come to light
from our sister um that
uh I don't know it kind of opened up the mindset of our sister and you
know so bringing it back into our story and what happened to us um a letter came
to light on a comment in social media on one of our
ads where customer had said oh I talked to your sister here's the letter so it
went public and we saw it and it was very interesting
uh and it really kind of opened up the the inner workings of the mindset
of um of this particular situation with our
sister and the unsoundness that is there um so we when we did a short uh like it
was a post or clip or whatever yeah we did a clip where we we read the letter and just shared some thoughts on it but
yeah so we're going to read the first part of this letter and the second part of this letter um this is what it is
right here so this is what we're reading
and there's some there's some red flags in here that
um we just think it's interesting to talk about so this letter is from my sister to uh one of our customers who is
named Dawn and I'm sure Don reached out to her and was like uh this is awful
what your brothers are saying I don't have that uh letter but you can kind of
see what Don was talking about just by reading this says hi Don I appreciate you reaching out to hear both sides
before judging and I fully agree that The Narrative of someone abusing and
abandoning their family is awful so my sister's agreeing with what
Don had said sadly my older brothers have been spreading false information in
order to sell their product when in reality the roles are reversed there was
theft and fraud when we parted ways but not from me me
so that was the first paragraph in this letter and we went through in our post
um basically just every sentence line by line showing the
unsoundness the manipulation the cover up we can do it
here too um with the first line it says I appreciate you reaching out to hear
both sides of before judging and I don't think it could be F from the
truth about what my sister thinks anyway she no I don't know if they're I don't
think they're sending or she's sending anybody to hear our side of the story and saying
hey why don't you go talk to why don't you go talk to my brothers before like let's say you're hiring somebody and
somebody's coming like hey I heard there was a family dispute or whatever and she's like you know what why don't you
go hear their side of the story and you can come hear mine and then you know make your judgment mhm I don't think
that's happening at all no I think I've no one I don't think that I I don't
think that's taking place because and I'll tell you why you know the reason why I know that's not happening is um
the story that's that they're telling I mean there's there's so much evidence
hard evidence fact proof and everything of um our ownership of [ __ ] and sauce
before we left [ __ ] and sauce and um and so there's a ton of that but in
the story that they tell they erase all of that from the story and so if you
wanted to have like the full picture which is essentially what you say in both sides of the story or like the full
picture that would be explained even on their public website like this would be explained hey like this is what it is
and um it's not there there is a hiding and an
erasing of um it's like the false witness that you were talking about the
false witness it is a false witness that is a perfect example of what a false witness is yeah so you know and it's
this is just an untruthful statement I appreciate you reaching out to your both sides of the story before judging there's no appreciation there well maybe
she's appreciating cuz she she heard our side only and so it's coming towards her
like oh I appreciate that you would come hear my side yeah you know that's easy
but just to give you an idea like for anyone listening like go on our website
read the story we actually send people to our uh to [ __ ] and sau's website we
send we um we send people there to see the whole
thing all the information as it is like if so that is I mean there's the tell if
you want people to know all of it like we send people we we show we show here's
all the facts here's all the stuff go read what they're saying judge for yourself who sends their people to their
competitor's website I mean that's the end I know that's the end of a end of our story is like here's our side go
over there and we and then they do judge for trust the
the Judgment of our customers enough that they would read what's on their
website and then just push the back button back back back and go back onto our website sure and I mean it's that uh
crazy is that well that's what that is what we do yeah and so I appreciate you
reaching out to he both sides of the story before judging and I fully agree that The Narrative of someone abusing and abandoning their family is
awful uh the word that pops out to me in that sentence is narrative and a narrative is
a story a narrative can be a twisted story a narrative you know it's taking
facts and twist them another way there's no twisting in what we put out it's irrefutable
facts carefully looked at in every possible way that it this cannot be
twisted that is how we put out our information yeah so um it's not a
narrative this is these are the actual things that happened it's uh maybe
different from your narrative but um it's not a narrative
so yeah and agreeing that abandoning their family is awful that is what my sister
did um so I don't I don't believe that
also sadly my older brothers have been spreading false information in order to sell their product when in reality the
roles are reversed so false information to sell
their product false information to sell their product go to my sister's website
and read false information to sell their product to sell their product is not
the everyone does this everyone tells their story to sell their product you want to know who you're doing business
with um so know values of those you're doing business with yeah and to to bring
up oh they're they're doing this to sell their product you know telling your story is
not bad now telling false information to sell your product that would be an issue that would be an issue I don't think
we're doing that I think we are uh telling the exact irrefutable fact yeah
what's crazy about this is the other thing what's crazy about the story is it's so freaking crazy it's like even a
it can be like a little uncomfortable for like a listener to be like oh my
gosh like wow like it's it is like you could tell a fluffy story
we could tell a fluffy story and go hey we're two brothers and we got into business and you know we're making a a
dip and you know care about health and well we do care about health but not in
the way that a lot of these Brands talk about it um but you know you could you
could do this fluff piece that is uh you know typical I would say
typical but you know there is um we're
actually telling the transparent nitty-gritty
of our story in business and like this is what it is like transparently here it
is and it's not like pretty and it's it's it's a crazy it's a crazy story it
might even be uncomfortable for some people to read it might even evoke emotional response and you know like I
mean we've even had people say you guys you guys need to focus on your product and not not you know they people like to
say air air Dirty Laundry which is so funny because we're cleaning Dirty
Laundry we're not airing it's not I'm going to air this out and we're not going to do anything about it it's like
no this is dirty and here's what we're doing you know about it um but yeah it's
it's uh it's fully it's just fully transparent and
the you know in the story that's told that my sister tells to sell their
product or why would you have their your story on there whatever you know it talks about her and her husband founders
of [ __ ] and sauce you know it doesn't mention us at all and you know it it it
tells this it's almost like they're you know I've I've talked about this in the previous podcast but they're holding on
to um this this family rooted family
business but it couldn't be further further from the truth you know it well
one of the truth is you know her husband wasn't a founder of [ __ ] and sauce he was an employee of [ __ ] and sauce yeah
and um you know it just isn't what is being said yeah you know the truth is
isn't that it's twisted it is Ted it's like it's like a narrative it's yeah it's it's a it is a false taking some
facts spinning it to self product to self
product uh okay so then and then she says when in reality the roles are reversed so so
she's talking about she's talking about theft and fraud I guess that's going into the next yeah the next it connects
the next sentence there was theft and fraud when we parted ways but not from me so this is the first time we'll when
we first read this was was the first time that we uh were accused of stealing
something uh we don't know what that is and um on our post we showed what you
how you react to someone's uh accusation of having a
problem with you for stealing and what you do is you say oh my
gosh if that is true I'm so sorry I would love to rep hey absolutely what I
stole yeah and uh talk this out I would love to
see um the evidence of yeah I mean of what we sold like show me the show me
the evidence what what did I do what did I steal what did I fraud yeah show me
the evidence so that I can make this right immediately immediately yeah um so
we put that out on a post and we have yet to uh receive any detail of anything that
we've stolen no I haven't received any detail of anything the second part of this uh letter is very interesting it
says I don't like to share my side and the details publicly because the
internet has a long memory and quote if you can't say something nice end quote
that's the first sentence um she doesn't like to share her side of
the story public because I don't know what the difference is publicly or privately if you're
sharing your story personally um uh if you can't say anything nice publicly
don't say anything nice privately also um but it says if you can't say anything
nice and this this is the religion of nice is what I like to call this um it
yeah I was driving I was driving I was driving in Maine last
summer and there's there's I think they're political sides but there sides out on
people's front Lawns like be nice be nice it's all about uh being
nice and so that is what um that's what people
value is it's it's the yes it's the selfish um side of it I want to throw
three words out there you do it I want to throw three words nice
kind and loving these three words nice kind and
loving are actually they mean totally different
things and they uh nice does not equal kind and
nice does not equal loving mhm kind and loving those can be the same so let's
just do two words let's do nice and loving kind you can like put in there
with loving yeah um you know what
is what is loving about not
exposing like evil not exposing like covering it
up it's super nice it's seen as nice you're being nice if you can't say anything nice people don't have a
problem with that when you cover it up can't say anything nice well is that really loving to me what if I have a
massive problem yeah and you are unwilling out of the religion of niess
to help me mhm and if I won't hear it from you I need to hear it from somebody else
because you love me so much that you have to find somebody that I will listen to tell them and then they'll tell
me it is unloving in some cases to be nice mhm
loving is in the full scheme of things turns
out to be very nice it turns it turns out that uh you know if you let love do
its work at the end mhm you will see that was actually very nice what you
what you did and it might be scathing rebuke sure tough love they call it
speaking the truth in love in the Bible that was not a nice uh they weren't
referencing how nice these people were they were referencing that they were speaking the truth which is scathing and
you know is devastating to your case yeah devastating to a
self-preserving lies and stuff yeah yeah yeah do you have anything you want to
say about that um I mean you pretty much you pretty much hit hit on on those
things the it's just something that we've seen come up time and why why we
call it a religion is because it's you know we I've heard it
from people time time time and again and it it brings me back to just you know
the the you know the religion of not handling things not having tough
conversations and and hiding in hiding stuff away and I mean that that's it
right there don't say anything publicly can't be nice this is where the rubber hits the road
for uh this religious group of people um
NC is is the Lord is God yeah
and how dare you you know how dare you go around that how dare you make me feel
bad mhm niess makes you feel good yeah nice is like yeah it like makes you feel
good but again you know it's the verse is seek first the kingdom
of God and his righteousness yeah not niceness to everybody yeah that they
feel good about themselves or whatever I mean just read the Bible read the stuff that God says and then go take it up
with God about being nice or not nice the stuff he says to his own people who he loves so much and
who he gave everything for and read the words that he says and read
how there they're more hardcore than we are oh no you know like we've been
called bullies because we're we're just not nice to people we just feel uncomfortable say things
that they don't agree with but you know it's yeah just go read the Bible and then take if you have an issue with nice
take it up with God you know because you know God is love and
everything he says is love Yeah and um
but it's not it doesn't fit in the religion of nice show me the word nice
where God is nice God is not nice God is not nice to um evil yeah oh
no so this whole this whole section of if you can't say anything nice I would really appreciate to be loved more than
to be uh um nice to yeah absolutely um
so please uh come out with everything that you got it will help me if if
you're right also this is the next sentence also it just hurts my heart to relive what happened 10 years ago
so this is this is where the manipulation comes yeah comes in yeah
I'm hurt mhm um 10
years you're you're bringing back the boys the brothers are bringing back
something that's way in the past it's it's over you know it's covered up by
time it's you know it's not real anymore it's not you know we why why even go
back why even talk about these things this route is still there MH this is older
than a 10 year old Route this is a route that doesn't want to be discovered and
10 years ago without any change 10 years to now it's stronger it
is more stubborn mhm it will take more to get it out mhm it will
uh and it doesn't want to be discovered no it wants to live no it's trying
to it's trying to find people who will be nice and gain
agreements yeah and the statement is trying to downplay an egregious
event that time time does not uh change anything no time doesn't change a thing
no so the the part the manipulation part is the hurt part yeah you know like
you're like it it hurts me it I'm hurt so it's
like okay is that so I can't so we can't talk about it or shouldn't talk talk
about it because someone's hurt or says they're hurt yeah yeah and I mean that's
I mean that this came up in another letter letter too like where it was another letter from a customer who had
written in and in that letter she said you've succeeded in hurting me yeah you know almost
like it's a bad thing to talk about this stuff yeah how like how how can one of
our customers hurt somebody mhm
well maybe you care what they think M you know maybe the truth actually is
maybe the truth hurts how come it doesn't hurt me how come it doesn't hurt you how come
the truth even though you were the victim
of wrongdoing yeah and you've chosen to be wrong how come that Truth uh doesn't
hurt you uh yeah my identity isn't freaking
attached to any of that it doesn't have power to hurt me the truth should never hurt you no the
truth sets people free the truth sets you free yeah only oh you're talking about about truth
yeah like cuz we live in the same truth as our sister sure um that is one thing
that is very interesting when truth is presented whether it's from a customer
of ours or whether it's from us in this podcast or a post that we do or ad or
Whatever Whenever truth is is enters the
picture um it's either locked or it's uh
responded to like this like I've we hear almost daily of customers who try and
access bitchin after you know coming against them with a truthful statement
like why aren't your brothers involved with this sure and they get blocked and then they get blocked y
now and we're in the same we're in the same truth world we uh live live through
the same stuff if someone came into our business a a [ __ ] and sauce customer MH
and was like hey I heard this this this this there is nothing you could say some
people do some people do come in and say hey you you should whatever or whatever you
know there's nothing that you could say to me um that would make me
block you off I if you I would say if you
were taking from a customer of mine or you were you know getting in the way of
a customer doing business sure with me yeah which is maybe what they're thinking like you know huh they're
stopping all if this is seen out this is seen by other customers then we won't
then they're stopping our customers from buying from us but they they don't care about that like
they want people to see both sides of the story oh yeah I forgot about that no
it's I would never block anybody the truth the truth will settle it once and
for all um but we're seeing from the other side that's that's a red flag if
someone like blocking truth out mhm uh facts presented don't talk that person
separation from all truth doesn't affect me the the way it affects them no no the
hurt yeah the hurt thing is I think it's used as a manipulation like oh like to try to control somebody
oh maybe I shouldn't do that because that hurt you you know cuz you're supposed to be nice and the whole you
know plays into the whole thing but it's you know I am not concerned about
hurting or not hurting what I know is people are hurting and there's one way
to set people free and that's with the truth it's like a it's like a it's like a wound being exposed
to the air and to scrubbing and cleaning and all that stuff that might hurt a
little bit you know like even me personally like you know before that
Costco conversation it was like whoa holy moly I need a change that wasn't a
comfortable scenario no but it was you know I'm free
and yeah no I get it the next sentence says and I don't
like people okay wait no that one yeah and I don't like people talking bad about my brothers my family as though it
is some kind of entertainment she doesn't like people talking bad about us I don't care about
that I don't care about that either and this word entertainment keeps coming up as if it's like
it in other letters this word entertainment has showed up like our
family is on display for entertainment um if you want to use the word entertainment I'm sure people are
entertained by what they're seeing I I know some people are but I also know
some people are inspired and I also know some people are uh relieved to know the
truth and um you know saved from their from their
unknowing it's just it is a very it's a
very I'll tell you what she has no problems
with with her family being entertainment she is posted on the side
plastered her and her husband are plastered on the side of a semi that
drives down the highway with the brand [ __ ] sauce on it their own faces and signatures are plastered on it her photo
is plastered on the front you know magazine covers that are in you know all
San Diego stores at the register faces plaster don't they own an entertainment
company they I think they started a you know a music label yeah also you
know it's not what it is yeah it
is she doesn't want want the truth to get out yeah it's it has nothing to do
with entertainment she's she's freaking so public on so many things but
it's if it's as long as it's not threatening yeah you know she take the
entertainment sure people entertained by her business story and all the the stuff
that she goes out and you know parades around and stuff yeah she'll take it but
that that's just it's not true y all right third
paragraph [ __ ] and sauce is a family business that's true started out that
way and I have a really big close family
65 cousins 26 aunts and uncles plus my
husband's six amazing siblings and our own five
children lots of them have worked with us from the beginning and saw what
happened they would be good resources to fact check if you don't feel comfortable taking my word for
it I don't know what claim she made here besides that something was stolen
somewhere that's the opposite um see how vague this
is afraid of specifics red flag Dan dancing around truth without
committing to your own word in some way mhm
uh it's written which is great but nothing is written here this it says
nothing MH um there in in that previous paragraph
there was theft and fraud it doesn't say who did it it doesn't say
what I mean anyone it says nothing this is a powerless
email because it presents nothing to for anyone to do any changing like I think
that's why she posted it I mean I think that's why she posted it on our our I
don't know if it was an ad or on our social media post why why the customer did cuz she's like you know you're not
fooling anyone yeah like can you believe this stuff and she posts it and this is not threatening to us yeah like it's
still up there you could go find you know what I mean it's not yeah there
isn't and even if there was specifics I mean perfect then we're getting somewhere and we can actually like start
going through stuff and I don't care if it's public like let's go publicly
through it and I don't even care if I'm wrong publicly let's go through it and let's see what's see what's what but
yeah you're right there's there's no specifics to anything it's it is um and
without with without that it's just you know I think that customer saw
exactly what yeah what's funny about this part is where it's like I have a
really big family close family uh I beg to differ than uh this family is
shattered 65 cousins the fact that you counted the
cousins to and counted the aunts and uncles to put in this email to convince
someone that she has more people on her side of the story of whatever her story
is cuz she never says what it is and to go talk to them mhm uh who yeah who and where is their
contact so I can reach out to them yeah this is a dead end this has this this is
powerless also it's totally untrue because you and I were there at the
beginning I was there my sister was there uh our wives were there our wives were
there like two-thirds of the company that was actually working with them our
parents our younger sibling younger brother they all left brother-in-laws so
uh I mean no wonder there's no one to talk to here because if you went to anyone other
than her amazing her husband's amazing siblings which even some of them well
will tell you more truth than what's in here that's true um anyway I just think it's funny that's
pretty manipulative uh they would be good resources to fact check if you don't
feel comfortable taking my word for it the truth is my older brothers have
isolated themselves from their family and friends including our parents and
younger brother and will not let us see their families it is awful
what do you think about that that the truth the truth is the
truth of the matter is that we have isolated ourselves from our family and our
friends I mean my mind goes back to the time when she locked the doors while I
was on vacation and I think that's I mean
that's all I have to say about it you know is when she you know when I look at
that situation I go you know dangled our livelihoods over the
cliff said we better fall in line and negotiate you
know and then when we wanted to have a and then when we wanted meting yeah when we wanted to meet a third party she was
nowhere to be found yeah when we said let's meet it there is this is the uh
false witness side of it where there are partial truth to this we don't see them
we don't see the majority of our family yeah that's true we don't see our parents and we don't see our younger
brother mhm and we don't let them see our families MH that is a true statement
but there's so many like Gates of factual events and
reasoning that you know paint a a wonderful picture of why we don't do
that M just isolating ourselves and not giving the full story of why we isolate
ourselves why do you think we isolate ourselves you know there's lines drawn in the
sand and the door is wide open oh yeah door is wide open anyone can come in and
the first thing that we're going to talk about is you know this issue because you we don't we don't bury
things anymore it's it's a unhealthy Place mhm so if you want to be in
relationship which sounds like you do it sounds like it sounds like it um
please walk through this door any one of those people any one of
those any one of those vague people mentioned except for the amount of cousins and uncles any of them walk
through the door let's sit down and let's talk talk about it yeah that is
the truth and this is where like and that's and that is not that is like you said it is there is a blaring wide
openen door to come sit down discuss and talk about it all MH I mean the door is
wide open to my family MH same but there the line is we're going to talk about
stuff we're not just going to bury stuff yeah we're not I'm not going to be nice we're going to be loving mhm to all of
us yeah if I have the problem yep I want to know yep and we have to talk about it
yep and please help me if you love me please help me yep um what I think is a
reality is that you have the problem biblically what you do is you
bring in someone from the church whose Lord and savior is Jesus Christ and you
sit them down to hear both sides of the story and then make a judgment mhm and
that's it mhm and that's God's way of doing it and you have to trust God that that is the way to do it um whatever
their judgment is MH uh and this is where the rubber hits the
road for me mhm is yeah same it's not if you're nice to me it's if it's if are
you willing to sit down mhm in a I'm going to make this invitation right now
please come please sit down with us if this last sentence in your in your
letter is true uh the truth is my older brothers have isolated themselves from family
friends including our parents and younger brother and will not not let us see their families it is awful okay I
will let you see my family I want you to we have to have a conversation first
isn't it worth having a conversation so it's not awful anymore please come we'll bring in a
third party that has no idea about our story at all they don't even know
bitchin they don't know our new company they've never heard of any of us before but their lord is Jesus Christ and
they're going to sit in here and they're going to listen and then they're going to make a final judgment could go against me totally I could have to
totally dissolve this company you could lose everything I could lose it all
biblically that's where the rubber hits the road the invitation is open the ball is in your court you cannot say this
truthfully anymore anyway so yeah that's
good so yeah in other podcasts what we'll do
is we'll go through some of the other uh red flags and unsoundness where they
kind of creep up and pop their heads out the purpose for it is not to uh uh you
know air Dirty Laundry it's to clean dirty laundry yeah and there's a lot of
cleaning that needs to happen in the people that I love in my life and to
have the power to help them and not use it is unloving for me yeah uh it may not
seem nice but is very nice and is kind yeah um so we'll have more yeah I think
just I think also the purpose is like you know so many people are
in similar scenarios where they're dealing with relationships or you know
business partners all sorts of things like that and like being able
to being able to see some of these red flags like you might go wow that's that
like hits home and I yeah I've had that ick feeling also you know and then I
think awareness is a big de is just being able to identify and then go okay
well what is what do we do about that so like what do you do about you know
someone who is you know making decisions in in fear and all those things because
it doesn't just it doesn't just go away until you handle until you go down to the root issue of those things it's not
like it's just going to go away to so to think like ah just waited out and um you
know it's only going to manifest itself and you know we've experienced in our uh
you know just even in our new business and with people who we work with and
stuff where it's like you know people making decisions out of fear and identifying it and then you know
realizing whoa there's there are some red flags here and you know it's not and
I would say fear is it is it is a Playbook that it all equals the same
thing and goes the same direction so you know you can learn learn from us instead
of you know finding out after the fact and being reactionary and like oh I can't believe this happened like you can
um identify these things right away yeah and uh handle those things and really
the the place of of power is in um and
what brings freedom is speaking the truth a lot of times what we've found is that
um people who are fearful will try to skirt the truth and there's a lot of a
lot of things that are brought up that have nothing to do with anything and it's really easy to get caught up in
useless conversations and follow rabbit Trails of stuff that doesn't
even it doesn't even matter it's just to divert you yeah but when you're honed in
on like no this is the issue and I'm just going to stay right here you can swear at me you can do all these things
you can say whatever you want but I'm going to stay right here on the truth and when you stay focused on that that's when
things start Illuminating yeah um you know cuz you know situations can seem
like wow this is very complicated and they're saying all this stuff like even in this letter you know talking about she's hurt talking about time and family
and nice and you know hitting on all these things that none of this actually matters like if this if all these things
were things we actually valued as something that had power and was real um
you know then it would be like wow like this really has some substance to it but
we don't value any of that stuff yeah um not even I don't value a relationship at
the expense of righteousness yeah you know what I mean um going to like the isolation from their family it's so
awful you know it's I'm sorry it's not awful the righteousness of God is what
matters and so when you keep it simple and stay there um again the fruit that
comes from that the righteous fruit of God is quickly evident yeah and you
don't need to try to preserve all these values that are popping up that
are way less than and not even stuff that God doesn't
even he doesn't the the reigning thing is first his kingdom and his
righteousness and just keep it simple that's it so you go thanks for joining the podcast
yeah thanks for listening uh we're not done more to come there is so much
wonderful things to talk about yeah more to come